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anigbrowl 15 minutes ago [-]
I was surprised how much I enjoyed reading this. Although it's necessarily opinionate d(the lead author was part of the Direct file team) it comes off as very even-handed, giving equal consideration to successes and failures, and addressing the partisan political environment in factual terms.
It's unusually well-written, providing lots of key details or dropping in relevant context without ever losing sight of the big picture and the looming deadlines. I expected to just read the executive summary and then skim the rest, but it held my attention the whole way through.
LastTrain 49 minutes ago [-]
There isn’t much to study - it didn’t succeed or fail on the merits - someone didn’t like it because he didn’t create it so it got axed.
ronbenton 46 minutes ago [-]
I disagree wholeheartedly that there isn’t much to study. Direct File was actually a resounding success, especially when you consider how much difficulty governments tend to have shipping good software products. There is a lot of good information in here that government entities can learn from.
mixdup 44 minutes ago [-]
Including how and why it died. That is an important lesson for the entire governmental enterprise, including all decision-makers, to learn: that government CAN deliver something good and one single person should not be in totalitarian control
IncreasePosts 9 minutes ago [-]
I think it speaks to doing things "the right way". Direct file could have been mandated by Congress, but it wasn't. Instead it only directed the IRS to do a "study" as a "voluntary agency initiative". That left full control of whether it should be done in the hands of the IRS and the executive branch.
firesteelrain 23 minutes ago [-]
It had talented software engineers involved including with the marketplace. It succumbed to political forces
pudgywalsh 12 minutes ago [-]
Care to share substantive evidence of your outrageous claim, or is it more karma-grabbing Reddit seethe?
You forgot to mention they subsequently made it open source.
I assume you didn't read that far if you read it at all:
Anyone wheeling and dealing along in the shadows between "politics" and "deliverable, functioning product" should read it. Or, I guess, paste the link into Claude or ChatGPT and ask it to summarize for them, lessons learned in bullet points and how it could apply to $their_job.
But I'm generally a weirdo who finds these kinds of reports fascinating, so don't purely go on my recommendation.
gradus_ad 36 minutes ago [-]
Eh, government should not be in the business of maintaining digital infrastructure, regardless of how capable it might be. As much of it as possible should be contracted out to 3rd parties.
doginasuit 2 minutes ago [-]
Arguing the other side, digital infrastructure shouldn't be such a complicated domain that it is out of the reach of governments. This is the authority we trust to build our roads and virtually every other meaningful infrastructure in our civic life. Why should digital infrastructure be out of bounds?
The only alternative is inserting a third party that should be unnecessary in the equation. That shouldn't be necessary for the average filer assuming a bare minimum of competence, like once might assume for the only country to put a human on the moon and bring them safely home.
compiler-guy 33 minutes ago [-]
Explain your reasoning at least.
The government has to maintain some infrastructure to get this sort of thing done. Whether digital or analog. And if it contracts it out, it needs to oversee it. So no matter how it is done, the government has to pay.
NoDodgeQuestion 26 minutes ago [-]
Don't you care about the actual outcome at all? Even if the government does a better job, you still prefer a third-party organization?
shepardrtc 28 minutes ago [-]
At exorbitant costs or lackluster execution, with plenty of campaign donations along the way
timcobb 26 minutes ago [-]
> As much of it as possible should be contracted out to 3rd parties.
This is the case pretty much.
denkmoon 30 minutes ago [-]
You could just light the money on fire instead and get the same result. Contractors routinely screw the tax payer. I once had a job in one of these third parties where the entire operation was effectively defrauding the tax payer by claiming 1hr jobs would take 40.
zephen 12 minutes ago [-]
Do you think the government should allow electronic filing of taxes?
Because if the government is going to accept returns electronically instead of through the physical mail, then it should accept them without requiring an intermediary.
Interestingly, it does this for corporations, but not for individuals.
Gee, I wonder why.
Personally, I think that (a) the government needs to have my PII to process my taxes, and that (b) having the government require me to also hand my PII to a third party in order to pay taxes is a big fucking security nightmare.
It's unusually well-written, providing lots of key details or dropping in relevant context without ever losing sight of the big picture and the looming deadlines. I expected to just read the executive summary and then skim the rest, but it held my attention the whole way through.
You forgot to mention they subsequently made it open source.
I assume you didn't read that far if you read it at all:
https://github.com/IRS-Public/direct-file
Anyone wheeling and dealing along in the shadows between "politics" and "deliverable, functioning product" should read it. Or, I guess, paste the link into Claude or ChatGPT and ask it to summarize for them, lessons learned in bullet points and how it could apply to $their_job.
But I'm generally a weirdo who finds these kinds of reports fascinating, so don't purely go on my recommendation.
The only alternative is inserting a third party that should be unnecessary in the equation. That shouldn't be necessary for the average filer assuming a bare minimum of competence, like once might assume for the only country to put a human on the moon and bring them safely home.
The government has to maintain some infrastructure to get this sort of thing done. Whether digital or analog. And if it contracts it out, it needs to oversee it. So no matter how it is done, the government has to pay.
This is the case pretty much.
Because if the government is going to accept returns electronically instead of through the physical mail, then it should accept them without requiring an intermediary.
Interestingly, it does this for corporations, but not for individuals.
Gee, I wonder why.
Personally, I think that (a) the government needs to have my PII to process my taxes, and that (b) having the government require me to also hand my PII to a third party in order to pay taxes is a big fucking security nightmare.